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Character Database?

Like the Characters page from the HRFWiki, but not as overly complex. I was just thinking of a place where you could just put your character so people don't have to dig through everything just to find out who they are. So, is this a bad idea or not? - SKUB ? 16:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I like the idea. It could reduce bandwith. Lucian SummersThe Heir has awoken. Your shit is wrecked. 16:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
If we did, we'd have to make users get rid of character sub-pages under thier user space(i.e, Ryan Bluefox/Bios) to save a good amount of bandwidth. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 16:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess maybe? I don't know, I just wanted a place where everybody's character was listed. - SKUB ? 16:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
And I guess that's a yes. Now, who's going to do the layout? - SKUB ? 16:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
We may have to do some self-moving character bios should the page be started. Inactivity and all that jazz. What should we do about character bios that are part of a text fiction, though? Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 16:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Eh, I don't know. So, does anybody have, like, a cached version of the HRFWiki's character page? You know, just for reference? - SKUB ? 16:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
I did suggested that a long time ago and they said no ;_; -pmelondemon43y 16:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


Ok, what is it with people removing stuff from other peoples take pages just because they think it's spam? It should be up to the owner, and only the owner of the page to decide what's acceptable and whatnot. Not other users. Lex 21:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think anyone has the right to blank what any other user writes, with obvious exceptions, of course. TheCheese 22:43, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Lex 22:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
The last time I checked, spam is putting random external links on pages. And even if that isn't what the definition is, that doesn't mean I'm stupid. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 22:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but let the owner of the page sort it out. Plus, I didn't say you were stupid. Lex 23:00, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Skull did. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 23:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Three, two, one, kaboom. Miss Peach.PNGMiss PeachMiss Peach.PNG

Spam =


but honestly you dont do that really so yes its blatant advertising or in some cases randomness where it doesnt belong it is also a meat TheCheese 17:43, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


I-I not gonna get ha-halloween... --Homestar tigerGah-rowl.Geronimo! 15:05, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Why? Lex 18:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Happy Election Day!

Shouldn't we be voting at the Wiki User Presidential Race or whatever? - SKUB ? 21:01, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

...Well, we should, but you guys have to fill up the pages, and I guess there are a few candidates that can stand to go, even as of now. Seeing as how you, Chwoka, Bluebry and Noid seem to be the ones with the most enthusiasm, we'll cut it down to you two and vote. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 21:12, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
bah just hide the pages away for next time. I already voted so WE ARE DOING THIS THENOID 21:14, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I haven't seen any enthusiasm from Chwoka so far. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 23:23, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Micah08.PNGThus Spake Lilfut

VOTE FOR RY-Oh. Lucian SummersThe Heir has awoken. Your shit is wrecked. 23:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Obama is the new President of the USA.--Kirbychu 05:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Badstar
Dare i say boo? Meme3 05:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Not if you enjoy breathing.--Kirbychu 05:07, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Obama is a win. -pmelondemon43y 05:08, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
I would act happier if I wasn't so tired...--Kirbychu 05:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Actually, Obama doesn't take office until about 76 days from now. - The good...X On Fire...And the good again. 12:28, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Headlines not working?

Blame Sammy.

But seriously, the site notice moves the page title down, making the headline template unable to cover the actual page title. Instead, it hides behind the MediaWiki site notice. The headline's still there, you just can't see it. - SKUB ? 20:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

In other words, if you can actually get Super Sam to remove that spam, we're all good to go. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 21:20, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
He could post the spam on his userpage. Sylar 21:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
On an unrelated note, Swuffle, er, Snuff-whatever is back. Who think he's gonna spamminate? --Homestar tigerGah-rowl.Geronimo! 21:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
In other other news, Santa Claus is a sockpuppet of Snuffleupagus. 18:25, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Hey, TheStick! And no, Super Sam is Santa Claus for the Decemberween gift exchange... right? --Homestar tigerGah-rowl.Geronimo! 20:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
No. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 00:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


I'm SO bored... Hey, does anyone know the link to the free trial download for Flash? -pmelondemon43y 06:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

It's on Newgrounds. Go crazy. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 06:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


Remember that great show crossover idea?

Yeah, it's happening.

That's really all I have to say. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 01:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

oh when i saw the topic title i thought the noid made it. but youre not the noid. so you lied. good day TheCheese 13:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


We've reached the 2,000 page mark! 00:12, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

i am important now and you will all worship me Homsar44withpie 00:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
let me just point out that we seriously would not be here without doggie TheCheese 00:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

what is important about 2000 except that it is a big round number -- NachoTalk 00:18, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, TheCheese, images don't count. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 01:05, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

lets remember all of the pages that were formed because of doggie TheCheese 01:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
If there weren't any, then the 2,000 page landmark would be a bit further away, but still reachable. - The good...X On Fire...And the good again. 19:58, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Yearly Award Show

You ever wish there was more for your fiction to win after FOTF? You ever want to see just how your fiction stands around the others? You ever want to see a Yearly Award Show on this here wiki just for the heck of it? Well, that's exactly what I shall attempt to create. It will be something similar to "The Jibneys" idea for the fanstuff only on the WUW. A good example of the kind of awards that shall be given can be seen here. I'd like input on this and maybe hopes of it becoming official. --TDenztest2.pngWILL 16:05, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I was going to actually do that last month, but then the wiki went down so... MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 17:44, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I was actually hoping for an official type thing like FOTF is. --TDenztest2.pngWILL 17:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
FotF is useless in its current form and is worth nothing. - Super Sam 03:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, I was thinking this could be an actual award worth winning. --TheDenzelWILL 03:04, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
How about PRIZES
Not, like, images, but actual prizes. Say, if you have an interview show, that person can skip to the front of the line for it, or if you have a "show" you can put a crossover with it up for el grabs!-Chwoka 04:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Fanstuff Idea.

Hey, how about we all purposely create a cheesy charity song parody? Lex 17:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Elaborate plz. --TDenztest2.pngWILL 18:07, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
We make a phony charity organization, and make the lyrics for a fake cause. And I mean a real song. Lex 21:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Like a crossover song? --TDenztest2.pngWILL 02:26, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. A cheesy parody. Full of users and fake characters alike. Lex 16:18, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
So? Lex 20:15, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

A Test

Super Sam 03:25, 1 December 2008 (UTC)


Sooo, we can upload .swfs, but not .flas (which have adjustable borders), then we can't actually show the .swf in question? Boy, this is a useful feature! - Chwoka 04:31, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

- Super Sam 06:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
APPROVE MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 11:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone know...

How to make a red link appear like this via their Monobook.css;


belstrnnmmvnmn 21:33, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

 a.stub {
	color: #772233;
        text-decoration: line-through;
 }, #p-personal {
	color: #ba0000;
        text-decoration: line-through;
 }, #p-personal {
	color: #a55858;
        text-decoration: line-through;
OK, there. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 21:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. ...So, I'm guessing there's no way to make the strike black, but keep the text red? belstrnnmmvnmn 22:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

New Design

Please note that I'm still working on the Who's Online thing so expect that to vary back and forth a bit. - Super Sam 17:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Page links on "Who's Online" are broken, they add "index.php/" at the start. -from the desk of 20eric06t-AES 17:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Also, it's back one page. If you are on special upload, then go to the main page, it'll still say your on special upload . FloppyDongHersh Bensfloppydong.png
yeah well i'll have to guess that's a feature and no that doesn't happen only on the upload page and no "your" isn't the same thing as "you're". -from the desk of 20eric06t-AES 18:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
It's called and example. How's that word for you? Gonna need to pen it into ya dictionary? FloppyDongHersh Bensfloppydong.png
What. -from the desk of 20eric06t-AES 18:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I like the idea of seeing what other people are looking at, but it makes me feel... watched. Miss Peach.PNGMiss PeachMiss Peach.PNG
Can we remove the Anonymous IPs from it? --Xenophunk(don't) talk to me 20:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Ditto Zoo and Vindi. belstrnnmmvnmn 21:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


I like it! 00:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

All this glorious new crap is slowing down my computer, and it's only when I go here. Is it safe to presume something on here is causing it? Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 00:54, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Same here. belstrnnmmvnmn 01:02, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Same with mine. Miss Peach.PNGMiss PeachMiss Peach.PNG
Is there a way to keep it all but make it not so draggy on the browser? --TDenztest2.pngWILL 01:48, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
it is also taking me a long time to load as well okay jcm
anyway, i also dislike the being-watched-over deal with the Who's Online thing, and adding in IPs should really, REALLY be removed  yup  01:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
IPs are visible to sysops only. I can remove it if you guys want but it's pretty much the same thing the forum does. - Super Sam 04:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually, everything hosted on Fellowsites is loading slowly right now. But, you guys who rarely ever go to the HRWiki probably didn't know that. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 01:50, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

You're right! 02:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

also the sidebar doesn't display properly on the main page for me, it's down further I TOLD YOU YOU UNLEASHED A MONSTER - NOID

I like the idea of it, but I think it should only show what users are on, and not what there looking at. I also think you should be able to hide yourself, for the people not comfortable with the idea. - nehnjaduehk 05:01, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Me Agree. User:Mtp1997

Special Pages have Talk Pages

This is a glitch apparently. Please please please do not make or edit any talk pages for any special pages such as, say, recentchanges and the like. It is just harder to clean up when Sam finally fixes it.  yup  00:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay so this is intentional. However, it's there for the exact same purpose as any other talk page, to discuss the page. Not post useless crap about "omg look we can put something here" because that is stupid and useless. Go ahead and use the talk pages if you have something useful to say, otherwise, don't. - Super Sam 04:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Bell had a reasom; he was wondering why anyone even uses it. Brerose 04:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

lol no school

If you live in good, old, America, and have a school system equally as crappy/crappier than mine, you probably have to attend Student/LED conferences. Yes, they do suck. But no, I don't have to go one tomorrow, like most other people in my state.

What about the rest of you? Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 01:14, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

What the heck is a Student/LED conference? - The good...X On Fire...And the good again. 01:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
They're conferences that require students with LED lights jammed in their eyelids. No, they're really parent/teacher conferences with the parent's child present. Or something. belstrnnmmvnmn 01:33, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
"LED lights" is extremely redundant. -from the desk of 20eric06t-AES 02:10, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
your mom's redundant  yup  02:18, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
do you even know what redundant means :| -from the desk of 20eric06t-AES 02:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
yes that's why it's hilarious  yup  02:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Correct. We can also call them " a cheap excuse for Chaos not to go to school", because me and my dad didn't ask for one. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 01:35,

8 December 2008 (UTC)

they'll all be back

I hope Badstar and Ryan realize that this is really only going to last until the fifteenth. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 02:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

...Sorry, what happened? I was playing Fantastic Contraption. All I remember was edit wars and pointlessly arguing about the GAME series. -pmelondemon43y
what happens on the 15th?  yup  02:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
That's it. Badstar and Ryan "left forever" again. I hope they realized that after the fifteenth, when this FOTF ends, it won't matter. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 02:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I wish I could "left forever" Well.PNG --Xenophunk(don't) talk to me 02:45, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
WHY NOT RIGHT FOREVER LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 02:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I like how Chaos listed me yet, I came back yesterday. -- Badstar
sorry :( --Xenophunk(don't) talk to me 02:47, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
YES YES OFFEND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OBVIOUSLY HOMO/BI SEXUAL Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 02:48, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I remember when I used to leave forever. The thing WatCh 02:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Me too.
goddamnit this wiki sucks - SKUB ? 02:54, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I 'left forever' once, but came crawling back an hour later. -pmelondemon43y 02:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

See? This place has it's own virus. It hooks you in, and keeps you here for what seems to be forever, then lets you go on purpose, but you always come crawling back. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 02:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

You know what... I'm leaving. FOREVER!! The thing WatCh 02:59, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
ok Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 03:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm back. The thing WatCh 03:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh, hey. Where'd you go? Were you at the grocery store or something? Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 03:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I've never left and I don't plan to. I'm not missing any drama here. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 12:08, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm only going if GAME 1 wins. Don't give me any BS about "its only a joke just leave it and wait until next nomination" because, it would prove to me that the majority of users here are either Idiots or Kissarses. I've been annoyed by the wiki lately anyway. Mostly because of certain users who treat this wiki as a joke. And for complaints, don't give me any. I can't be arsed. Lex 16:59, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
This wiki is a joke. It began as a joke for those people who didn't want to cooperate on the Fanstuff Wiki. Even that was a joke for people who didn't want to stick with the Knowledge base. So yes, the wiki is a joke. Nothing here will ever amount to anything that happens in the real world. Nothing here is serious. Why not just relax a little? --TDenztest2.pngWILL 18:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
I would like to enjoy this wiki though. And the idiotic people who support all of this are making me uncomfortable. And you know the saying. "If you don't like it, just leave." And if GAME 1 wins, it will be the final nail in the coffin. 18:52, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
How about you just ignore it all? It's only one award. There's more to the wiki. There's soooo much more to do here. If you don't like these "idiotic" people, then seperate yourself from them. Stay away from the arguments, stay away from thier disputes. It works out pretty well for all those others users. --TDenztest2.pngWILL 18:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

I honestly have no clue why this caused so many users (3 or 4) to leave. Is anyone else able to wrap their mind around how Game 1 getting a lot of votes in FOTF (which is worthless, btw) made people so angry that they decided to throw their reputations away? And I know people are going to say "Yeah, well NachoMan, you left too!" But keep in mind, I was 13, and I'm a normal user, and I left because of personal problems, trying to cope with depression, it was not a fun time. The people who left now are 15, and they are MODS. Clearly they have much more intelligence and wisdom and better judgment than a 13 year old, right? Obviously, you lack these traits if you leave over a frickin joke. -- NachoTalk 02:55, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

A think the entire wiki really needs to take a real, serious look at maturity. Yes, this wiki is a place for fun. But fun doesn't mean everyone acting like idiots. I'd also like to remind all those who've been given mod powers, to live up to them. What good is this wiki if those who have powers are only contributing to the problems? I'm not going to say names, but the mods need to step up and start acting like it. Leaving, arguing, swearing, complaining, and just adding to the problems is NOT a good example for those without powers. There is no excuse for anyone to behave in such a way, especially those in moddom. --TDenztest2.pngWILL 03:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

hey guys

take a chill pill will ya - Super Sam 04:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. You could say I have no position to argue. I've been away for months, and I always end up forgetting about a place and end up leaving. However, a little thing, everywhere you go to, real life or the internet, there is always the chance to have some conflict start. I've been in my fair share of fights with people, and most of them have been resolved, so let's just try to calm down a bit. Having a giant fight over a stupid little game is just pointless. And stupid. - Cluelesscat/CC

Thanks, TheDenzel, you taught me that my role in the dispute, even though I backed out when I realized what I was doing, shows that I'm no more mature than I was months ago. All that stuff about changing was a lie. I'll never change. I'll always be normal, backseat mod, annoying, JCM, with few friends and no hope. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 12:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, for the most part, the friends thing is absolutely wrong. You aren't annoying, but the backseat mod thing is a little too true, no offense of course. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 22:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Errors

Have any others mods been unable to delete things recently? No matter what I try to delete I recieve an error reading, "Error deleting file: Could not create directory "deleted/s/b/f"." --TDenztest2.pngWILL 23:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

i noticed it once when i was trying to delete that horrible abomination "well"
were you trying to delete it too if so i commend you  yup  23:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
...If he was, then Well is obviously an omnipotent being, as I suspected it to be, considering it has taken control of the minds of many Wiki User Wiki Users. belstrnnmmvnmn 23:45, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Well.PNG Shadow Scythe 00:27, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Wellthumbs.PNG belstrnnmmvnmn 00:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it's some annoying permission thing and I've been attempting to fix it but so far it's failing. I might try and fix it again sometime. - Super Sam 03:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

k --TDenztest2.pngWILL 03:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
Consider it fixed. - Super Sam 18:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Picture Glitch

When I uploaded a picture, everything black in it went white! Observe: 3aC5aP Intro.gif What the Heck went wrong?!?! - NIKE!CBC (talk · Miis)HANDS OFF MAH NIKE!

Nevermind, it looks normal now! - NIKE!CBC (talk · Miis)HANDS OFF MAH NIKE!
Actually, the glitch only happens when it's under the normal size. Observe:
3aC5aP Intro.gif
That's what you get for making it a gif. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 02:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


I remember on The HRFWiki we had mentors who taught Troubled New Users. I think we should have that for our wiki. - NIKE!CBC (talk · Miis)HANDS OFF MAH NIKE!

We've been through this. Ask TheDenzel for detail. FloppyDongHersh Bensfloppydong.png
Actually, I never brought it to the WUW. And I don't think it would work as well here. We just don't seem to have as many new users as we did on the HRFWiki. We don't ever seem to get new accounts... --TDenztest2.pngWILL 19:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, cause no one links to us and a WikiIndex page will be deleted in minutes. MeTK2lK.pngrEqWIWX.png 21:08, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
There's nobody to mentor new users and there aren't new users 22:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
inb4 "im mature i can help any new users they look up to me" TheCheese 23:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
in during "im mature i can help any new users they look up to me" im mature i can help any new users they look up to me — ChwokaTalk
I am the maturiest. Look at how I type. I should be a mentor to these kids. Actually, I don't want to I hate kids. And 3rd gens. -- NachoTalk 23:46, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


Blanking pages

Hey, just so you guys remember; You aren't supposed to blank pages when you put the To Be Deleted template on. Just put it on the top of the page, it makes things a little easier when you're deleting subpages and such. -- NachoTalk 00:04, 19 December 2008 (UTC)