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All of our characters have vices

Chaos has his pipe, Noxigar has his cigars(and his crazy), and Lex is an alcoholic. While these are kind of cliched archetypes for us to portray, I like how we each have one.

It makes the series clean. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 01:12, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's much better than Redux, where:

Lex 11:46, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

  • Chaos: blatant disgregard of authoritah
  • Noxigar: lack of a pathos and constant self-alienation therefrom
  • Lex: I actually cannot find a proper vice for Lex's character. Unless you count excess cursing... Noxigar 20:42, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Um... He's a notorious womanizer, having numerous illegitimate children from women he's slept with throughout the years. He hasn't met any of them. Lex 21:02, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Chaos has more of a brash sense of realism that interferes with Noxigar's alienation and Lex's womanizing as much as possible. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 04:18, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
A womanising alcoholic. Add that with his nostalgic personality, and we've pretty much got ourselves a Dean Martin wannabe. Lex 10:27, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Now I need a vice, so I don't get left out and all... Oh well, I still have flaws, right? RemolaySig.pngtalk 02:48, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Just a silly question

But do you have any particular voice "headcanons" for these characters? Like when you read them, do you imagine them with any particular voice? Just out of curiosity, I mean. Lex 02:33, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Your Homestuck obsession has obviously sparked this hasn't it Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 22:06, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
yes it has Lex 01:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Well, I do imagine the main cast being voiced by their respective users(so you for Lex, myself for Chaos, etc.) and off characters like Droll and Rosenberg are simply given borderline generic voices. For example, I totally imagine Droll to sound like Gambit from the '90's X-Men cartoon.
< Obviously D'Arque's voice Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 04:58, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
if you're imagining me as lex then i apologize deeply Lex 06:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Can we eliminate neutral characters?

I understand it kind of takes away from certain characters, but I think all the characters in the series should have some ethical alignment - I don't mean D&D alignments, I just want to make sure every character has a purpose - even the hired help and the mercenaries. Even though some characters will at times have neutrality about them, I would prefer to make sure every character takes into consideration lifegoals. Usually I wouldn't care, but it makes it better for purposes of writing, because it's easy to write for a character who simply does nothing that could potentially conflict with interests of good and evil - that is to say, it makes the characters kind of boring.

You know? Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 02:59, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from, and I'll gladly comply. It's just well.. I wouldn't particularly call Rosenberg and his crew "heroes", considering how he's really just looking out for his own interests before everyone elses. I guess the fact that he's against D'Arque in general would make him slightly more heroic, he's not particularly outstanding on the moral scale either. Hmm, I guess we would do that though, because considering his association with the main characters, you could technically call him a protagonist. Alright. Lex 03:07, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
I mean, I always thought he was in the game for the same reasons as D'Arque, he just values the wikihood crew more than D'Arque because the living are far beyond his concerns. I guess keeping neutral characters is fine, but make sure every character has a bend to them - I don't just want purely neutral characters. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 03:12, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Oh, of course. I see what you mean. Yeah, neutrality for the sake of neutrality wouldn't work well either, I agree. But no, the characters certainly have some moral bend to them, don't worry. Lex 03:17, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
"I tolerate no rivals!" Noxigar 05:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Starting to pave the way to clearing "neutral characters" outside of Rosenberg and Young. I might introduce more neutral pirates at a later date, to help with the space pirate subplot a little. Also, it would prove a worthy tale to tell for Oiracul and Remolay to listen and possibly learn of the Manor's history. Noxigar 09:59, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Ultimate Question

Do you think Vindi would be a minor character, because he has had no lines and up until now, has had minimal plot interaction? Or does he deserve his own character page now that we've taken a good chunk of his character and fleshed it out? Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 04:53, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

I say that he should have an individual page, not as a minor character, but more of a major one, with his role in the mostly being fleshed out in terms of backstory, whether it be through explanation or flashbacks. Lex 05:08, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Describe what your characters look like in greater detail here

So I can draw everyone. Here's my general visual approximations for everyone:

  • Noxigar: Giving him the grungy mad scientist theme without actually giving him the Organization XIII getup. I have a rough idea of what it will come out as. I know you generally portray Noxigar without hands, so I can work that into the drawing, but I'd give it a realistic solution(such as, the sleeves of his robe are really long).
  • Lex: I imagine him physically looking as neat as Fred from Scooby Doo, but not as cartoony. I'm going to stick with the Bowling Shirt and nice slacks that I envisioned him in during episode 1. If you prefer some alternative outfit, let me know. (for the love of god don't say you just want him to look like Fred from Scooby Doo)
  • Chaos: Iconic Hipster garbage, draped in his standard all black.
  • Oiracul: Generic female character. I don't know what her outfit would be like. I imagine her physically resembling Xenosaga's Mary Magdalene, except less black, of course.
  • Remolay: He's a drow, and all drow look the same, so how I draw him dosen't really matter. I think I may dress him up like Gil from The Simpsons though, to give that "pitiful excuse of a salesman" effect about him.
  • Rosenberg: I don't imagine him having any sort of defining physical characteristics, so I'd just draw a man in a tube. Would he be wearing clothing in the tube? If so, what clothing?
  • Stephanie: Stereotypical hot asian assistant. Short skimpy skirt, Nice shirt, maybe a sweater, some high heels.
  • Fritz and Lang: I'll just make some robots on wheels and hope for the best.
  • Vindi: Besides the CLOAK OF PURE EVIL, he will probably resemble the Horned Krampus under his hood.
  • Droll: He most physically resembles a Pathfinder Goblin, just taller and in a ratty suit.
  • D'Arque: We already talked about this during episode 3 - I'll use the aforementioned image for reference. I do, however, suck at drawing skeletons, so expect a delay, or just a shit job.

I'll draw new characters some time after they're introduced, and I'll probably make a group picture of key characters. Anyone have any preferences? Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 13:50, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

For Lex, you pretty much have him pegged down. Slightly more tan than the others (ironic considering how i'm the whitest cracka there is but hey we all can't be cis het white males now can we).
For Rosenberg, hmm.. It's not so much a tube as it is a capsule. Something like this, perhaps. As for him personally, yeah, like an incredibly skinny old man in a jumpsuit with tubes connected to him. Although, you're really just better off drawing him as he looked in his prime, considering the image he holds up. Basically this. Though give him a nice gentlemanly mustache too.
Stephanie... yeah that's fine.
Fritz and Lang, they're basically just copies of Claptrap from Borderlands but I don't actually have an explicit idea of what they look like, so feel free to base it around that design, I guess. Lex 15:28, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
I knew that Fritz and Lang were based on Claptrap, I just thought that it would be easier if I drew them in a non-copyright infringing way. Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 15:56, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Hey, as I said, I don't really have a specific way of seeing them, so feel free to interpret their design as you like. Lex 16:09, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
For Noxi, the lack of hands can be solved via black gloves (most chemistry experiments virtually require gloves - you could also solve the Phyrexian-irises via goggles over them; I advise red, oval goggles). Otherwise, I leave it up to your imagination or what you've seen among my MURDEROUSLY AMATEUR attempt. His hair is still dark, although you could get away with dark green tbh. Noxigar 21:17, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

The floorplan is definitely a cheap placeholder for the actual pictures that I still have to make and upload

Noxi I found your costume. Also, I'm going to do them in pencil n' paper black and white because I AM NOT A ROBOT AND YOU DON'T OWN ME Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 06:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

YOU'RE NOT ONE OF MY LITTLE TOYSSSS Lex 06:37, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

it would work chaos but remember noxigar is associated with sleeves so there would have to be more of those FloppyDongHersh Bensfloppydong.png

I find it skeptical that you pay that much attention to detail, less alone care at all Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 10:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
well clearly you just don't appreciate the fine art and subtleties in noxigar's character FloppyDongHersh Bensfloppydong.png
The answer to your question, which was up my sleeves the entire time, is Seven Asses. Noxigar 16:28, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
HA HA THAT IS A GRUMP GAME FloppyDongHersh Bensfloppydong.png

are there still roommate spots

unless raiku totally made you guys stop introducing roommates Brerose 06:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

the house is in a state of constant flux when it comes to space so there's always spare rooms Lex 06:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
NGL Sirrus you could intro yourself in proper but not as Raiku unfortunately. Noxigar 06:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
yeah no Raiku is a dead char for WUW. i'm retconning him for future use though Brerose 06:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

lex may I make a bio

i kept getting that error thing no matter what I did so I had to make a new section Brerose 06:22, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

yeah the wiki's being a bit of a bitch, but yeah, go ahead Lex 06:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Funny you should mention that, Lex

I wanted to suggest making a section for groups or organizations that would work like portals to specific sets of characters that all fall under that group, and allow us to detail the group and their exploits instead of having to spread it out among various character pages.

To that effect, we should nix the heroes n' villains thing, and we could just make different key groups the categories - Instead of Heroes, we'd make "The Wikihood" and then "Rosenberg Industrites" and "Debonair D'Arque and Associates" and "Byzantium" and just sort the characters like that - of course with a "Misc." section for people that aren't minor but aren't that specifically categorized Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 03:46, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Dibs on the Sea Hitman's Underwater Disco Palace in terms of groups. Noxigar 03:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Hm, it's relatively easy to determine who the heroes and villains are anyway. Yes, I agree actually. Especially in regards to the groups and organizations. Alright, I'm up for that. Lex 03:48, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
and then we can do one of those lame "see also" things that wikipedia does and seem cool, linking to an article specifically on the organizations Artisan of TortureThey call me Big T BLOODArtisan of Torture 03:51, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
ooh we're really getting showy here aren't we 8)))) Lex 03:53, 28 August 2013 (UTC)