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| − | So... any ideas? [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 23:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :This is the big episode in which my newest character Great Dane is introduced {{User:MelonDemon43/sig}}
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| − | ::Okay. So what's Great Dane and what's he about? [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 23:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::Hes a real tough cookie and a real charm with the ladies... party animal... BUT IT TURNS OUT HE WAS HOMELESS AND HE HOSTED RAVE WEDNESDAYS AT DEBONY DARKNESS'S THEATER NO ONE EVER CAME BUT HE WAS MR DEBBY'S PERSONAL DISK JOCKEY AND IT TURNS OUT HE WAS NEVER HOMELESS IN THE FIRST PLACE HE WAS SCAMMING PEOPLE FOR MONEY!!! {{User:MelonDemon43/sig}}
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| − | okay although melon is a butt i have to admit that an episode about d'arque and droll as the main characters wouldn't be that bad of an idea {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 23:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :YAY MELON SAVED THE DAY [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 23:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::we should probably show the circumstances of the aftermath of episode 7 though, what with them dealing with the manor being blown up and their cash effectively stolen from them {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 23:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::Yeah that'd be a good idea. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 01:06, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::I'd suggest that the tenth episode focus on exposition for Rosenberg and Stephanie, but let's focus on this before we go that far, hahaha. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 01:09, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::I don't think it'll be too hard to get Ep. 9 finished. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 01:58, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Oh no, probably not. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 02:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == actually ==
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| − | I think THIS episode should focus on Rosenberg and Stephanie because D'Arque has stolen the spotlight for half of the season so it's only fair that we give them a turn {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 06:55, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :While I do agree with you on some part on the fact that those two deserve more focus, I still think a D'Arque/Droll solo episode would be a good idea because even though they have had a good amount of the spotlight, it's only in regards to the main characters and ''their'' story. I think having an episode and a mini-story dedicated to these two going solo without any interference with the main cast or plot would be a good idea so we can give these characters more independence, other than being just devices to move the main plot forward. Okay, that's technically what they're there for, but still. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 08:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::The only problem is that a filler about the two would be difficult to write and require precise care and direction. {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 09:04, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::Huh, well I can see where you're coming from, I guess. We'll talk things over later to see if we can get a better plot idea then. Or try and roll with this still, either way is fine with me. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 09:16, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Precise care and direction are Wikihood's middle names! But yeah, I think Rosie and Steph could use more screentime. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 15:41, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::PERHAPS we could split the burden between the two of them and parallel the situations they're in {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 15:46, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Works like a charm, actually. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 15:47, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == The situation and how to parallel it ==
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| − | D'Arque and Droll are now homeless, theoretically jobless, and lost out to Rosenberg, who still sits high upon his perch. We should probably more closely follow and develop why the two hate each other beyond the fact that they live right next to each other and are both as old as canned dirt. D'Arque might have unrequited control of Townindale, but he needs to devise a plan that he knows can't fail with limited resources as it is. Personally I kind of want to throw in some kind of moment in which Droll and Stephanie have some interaction, because when you stack the two characters up against each other they're actually fairly similar - they both love their job, they both have as much political power as they do actual power, etc. and it could be worth showing off. {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 21:21, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :Oh yeah, I actually do want to tackle all that. As for the homeless and jobless part, I always imagined that the two resided in the theatre anyhow, and that the manor was just another relic of D'Arque's past. But nah, I get where you're coming from. I actually do want to develop the hatred between the two and explain it, but I don't want to take the easy way out and do it by flashbacks because that is some cliche stuff, yo. As for interaction between Droll and Stephanie, I actually would like that too, due to the parallels and such, yeah. For some reason, despite their opposite sides, I always imagined the two actually being quite amiable with each other in person. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 21:30, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::Why don't you guys DO THAT I mean my Wild Wrench nature is often to help you guys and yet I wonder why I did most of the editing for Eps. 7 & 8 until the near end. :/ [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 02:56, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::you're like the tape that makes the fancy wallet that keeps us together
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| − | :::wait that made no sense {{smith}} {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 03:08, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::I'm not sure if I got the point or not. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 06:38, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | I'm finding it hard to absorb any information proper with what we've already done, so I think we might need to dial this back and take baby steps to approach the situation. I'm alright with the opening, being that it's a recap from a different perspective, and the lead in to the actual plot development is good, but at 10k KB I would have already expected Rosenberg and Stephanie to have gotten off the ground, but they aren't even in it yet. I just think it'd be easier to establish the overarching plot points and development we want by integrating the other half of the conflict into it now, as opposed to waiting for one half to finish and then head to the other side of the fence. {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 19:52, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Yeah, I agree actually. I've been getting the same feeling, and that's why I'm quite wary with going further with it myself. I've established certain parts of the story, but I don't like how I approached them either. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 19:55, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::Did we ever establish why the two hate each other outside of this episode? That probably would have been a good idea. Not that your idea that you've used isn't bad, but I thought we specifically had a rationale behind this that we already developed but we may have forgotten about. {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 20:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::Well, Rosenberg henpecked at D'Arque a bit during his debut, but I don't really think that D'Arque has mentioned Rosie that much at all. As for the rationale in the beginning, I honestly don't think that we did, beyond the whole "crusty old men going at each other" thing. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 20:09, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::well when you put it like that they may as well have been sour bedfellows {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 20:10, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::i always imagined d'arque to actually be a totally adulterous ladies man back in his youth, and he actually does have several offspring, just that he doesn't acknowledge any of them and they all resent him because of it <!--this may or may not have something to do with the fact that i think he's of french descent too--> {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 20:20, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::all of the things you've just said are true {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 20:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::::i will forever see young d'arque as the douchy french playboy from this moment {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 22:02, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == considering this episode's status as a filler episode (somewhat) ==
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| − | i was kinda hoping that the others wouldn't show up in this one
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| − | not to mention that this takes place after episode 7/around the same time as episode 8, so having them in that circumstance wouldn't actually make sense considering the times and stuff
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| − | sorry bro {{smith}} {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 05:58, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :''{Chucks a wild wrench at a brick wall while resuming RiffText brainstorming elsewhere}'' [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 06:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :: D: that poor wall!! {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 06:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::: I'm joking while trying to actually riff stuff since Arceus Emails is almost at an end and Robuttnik isn't enough of a cheap laugh for me. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 06:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::There's always old wikihood ouo {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 06:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Hm... ''{decides if I want to have this be a Noxigar-and-Namine-go-to-Denny's-type deal or if I want this to be a solo riff like MFT3K was}'' [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 06:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == with all this spam filter stuff ==
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| − | should we just. get a new wiki {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 07:15, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :nah, this one's much better equipped because this one's actually being paid for and has more features coded into it {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 07:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::how do we get a hold of sam? {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 07:18, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::he's on the forum. we posted a topic on the WUW section but it quickly got buried by another one. somebody should probably just PM him or something {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 07:23, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::that forum still exists??? {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 07:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::yes 07:29, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::I told him about the editing problems, but I don't think anybody actually told him about the filters(which I wasn't aware of) - I wouldn't be too upset if we updated Mediawikis too, personally. {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 12:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == I would edit this ==
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| − | But like Chaos established already, which I agree with, I'm still a bit wary of the direction we're going, haha. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 22:17, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :I was just throwing in some appearance for the sake of establishing why Debonair and Rosenberg are after the Wikihood Gang. Please edit this as I cannot have it be Goofy Time all the time. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 22:24, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::what is goofy time {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 22:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::It's where I throw wild wrenches everywhere and write a bunch of stuff for Wikihood. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 22:47, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Ahh. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 22:51, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | The space pirate stuff was sort of relevant, 'cause unless we intro Noelle soon I do believe we're going to have some issues with making sure backstories get across by the end of Season 1. The bounties of Vindicator, Chaos, and Noxigar are all supposed to be really high to display the fact they were powerful space pirates and could still take the world under their thumbs if not for their split-up. The only reason Lex would have a lesser bounty than any of them would be because he did a lot more heroic things and the Galaxy Police or whatever would outright recognize that. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 00:22, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :Ah, I see. I apologize in that case. Although at the same time, I don't really get why Rosenberg and Stephanie would be the ones to talk about it as they don't really have much concern for that aspect of them. But at the same time, if you do feel that it's integral, feel free to put it back in :v {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 00:27, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::I put it back in, but with much shorter plans and much easier foreshadowing into Episode 10. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 00:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == is it just me ==
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| − | or does steph reveal too much information to random people she meets {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 19:34, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :oh, how so? {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 01:35, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::she basically told the taxi driver that she was about to have a meeting with droll
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| − | ::i don't think debonair would be too happy to hear that
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| − | ::but iunno the only episode I've read is 2 FOR OBVIOUS REASONS {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 04:30, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::Oh, well. Steph is already a well-known public figure in Listless, due to the fact that she's the face of Rosenberg's company, due to Rosenberg... well, he can't really make public appearances, being isolated in a chamber for all these decades. To the public in large, Rosenberg is an "unseen" figure, and everything about him is recalled by his various assistants over the years, Steph being the latest.
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| − | :::As for the Rosenberg-D'Arque conflict, that's hardly a secret either, as it's been going on more than most young people have been around and it's been heavily publicized in the news and stuff. So Steph meeting Droll really isn't that much of a private matter as one would think. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 04:58, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | == how long ==
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| − | do these things normally go
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| − | i'm not rushing you i just
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| − | have no clue {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 05:28, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :We usually go until 45kb at the very most. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 05:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::And that's still out of our comfort zone. We try hard not to break 32kb, but when it happens, it happens. {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 05:38, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::Yeah, just thing is that it's happened quite a lot lately, lol {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 05:44, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | can I ship stephxdroll {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 21:11, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :you can but it's never gonna be canon {{User:Sephiroth/sig}}
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| − | ::lies
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| − | ::it's totally otp {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 21:14, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::what is it with you folk and crack pairings {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 21:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Rule of Funny is my reasoning for most. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 02:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | So I think we've established a good amount in this episode, or at least in terms of the present situation at hand. All I think that's left is the wrap up of this series, unless anyone believes otherwise? I believe Chaos wants to streamline this episode though. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 04:20, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :Wrap up of this series?
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| − | :Do you mean the episode, or ALL OF WIKIHOOD? {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 04:33, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::i meant the episode, oops
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| − | ::although it could be equally as easy to wrap up the entire series in this episode by having the north korean plan for nuking america actually come to fruition, the state of Listless being the first to fall under nuclear hellfire {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 04:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::sounds like fun
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| − | ::I'll make my mark after the episode is written. {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 04:36, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::Alright, alright. Still though, wrapping this episode up. B[ {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 04:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::<s>we</s> you could wrap it up today or tomorrow and then we could get started on <s>the best episode EVER</s> episode 10 {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 04:47, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::speaking of I'm certain you're going to be the focus sirrus - congrats, you're the only person to be the center of an episode plot twice thus far {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 04:51, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::what other episode was I in
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| − | ::::::episode 2 is not a very good achievement
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| − | ::::::i am pretending that Raiku was totally someone completely different {{User:Sirrus/siggy}} 04:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::don't worry dude, in this wikihood universe, lex and sephiroth are two different entities
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| − | ::::::although sephiroth is now basically a fictional "flash gordon" type character {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 04:58, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::in the new wiki world order, everyone must be made aware of your past life - you're like a perfect lesson about changing for the better {{User:Chaosvii7/Sig}} 04:56, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Hm, I guess I could go about an easy way of wrapping it up, but I just can't help but think that'll be a bit.. unfulfilled still? Nonetheless, Chaos is gonna go through it all I guess, and I trust that cracka's judgement so alrighty. {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 04:50, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | The best part is you did what I would've likely done without all the wild wrenches. Good job, Lex. [[User:Noxigar|Noxigar]] 06:51, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :What are wild wrenches, if I may ask? Thank you, by the way! {{User:Sephiroth/sig}} 07:12, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
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