Talk:Wikihood/eps/8Alt

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What wacky antics can we do with our colorful cast of characters They call me Big T BLOOD 05:20, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I could introduce Noelle and have Noxigar invite her over as a permanent guest or something. I still haven't intro'd her in Wikihood tbh. There's also that thing with Bellstrom and Sarah that I had attempted to write via prototype but didn't finish. Noxigar 05:34, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

There's also the fact I nearly had Noxigar going to buy Lex and Chaos body pillows using photocopies of pictures of Stephanie Young, but decided to see if that was even remotely close to funny or if that was just me derping way too hard. Noxigar 05:35, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

lex is canonically asexual so this would be a rather confusing gesture towards him

and kinda creepy too i mean poor stephanie Lex 07:14, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

as for plots like man i think we should give these fuckers a proper holiday

the wikihood crew, causing trouble in new york city

broadway, discos, jewish italians, stuff like that

and have karl lagerfeld make a special appearance Lex 07:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Well there goes my headcanon of Lex and Chaos snogging. Anyway, I guess we can travel to Bluehaven. Noxigar 07:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Why would anyone want to, that's the question? Bluehaven makes Detroit look like Beverly Hills. It makes Compton look like Cape Cod. It makes East St. Louis look like Walt Disney Land. Lex 07:36, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

you've never been to any of these places have you They call me Big T BLOOD 07:47, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

i've been to walt disney world :( Lex 08:02, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

now that I think about it I also wanted one of the fillers to be a little Remolay-centric They call me Big T BLOOD 07:49, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Lay on some Remolay-centricness I guess. Noxigar 07:50, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Suppose I don't care where we go, but we'll leave Remolay behind and work on his character as he's by his lonesome. They call me Big T BLOOD 08:04, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

When you think about it, Oiracul hasn't had much exposure either. It could be an episode on them both? Lex 08:07, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, it's justifiable to make Remolay stay behind because he'd probably be busy with his current job, or lack thereof, but having Oiracul there would be good for giving him somebody to build character off of. I'm fine with that. They call me Big T BLOOD 08:14, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

dammit noxigar

They call me Big T BLOOD 04:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I'm busy cackling like a madman. And planning to buy Lex actual Mello Yello. Noxigar 04:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

why does noxigar want us to bang so much Lex

Good relationship chemistry if nothing else. Noxigar 04:13, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey fort knox you should know that alexander loved my addition to the story and you should respect that -pmelondemon43y

Oh damn it all. How do I- {sighs} Noxigar 04:16, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

LIVE WITHOUT YOU (I WANNA KNOW) Lex 04:18, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Lets start a petition to get that edit back on the page -pmelondemon43y

In my life there's been heartache and pain

I don't know if I can face it again

Can't stop now, I've traveled so far

To change this lonely life

I wanna know what love is

I want you to show me

I wanna feel what love is

I know you can show me

Aaaah woah-oh-ooh Lex 04:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, considering how I have no idea how the hell this plot is even progressing...

We should probably write an outline to follow, lest we lose track of what we're actually doing and end up forgetting about this until like 6 months later where Chaos and I are like "oh wait hey wikihood" Lex 23:51, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I think we're actually okay, but the intended direction of the plot is:

• The gang finds excess scratch that they want to use to go on a brief vacation
• Everyone but Remolay and Oiracul is going away:
  • Remolay is still trying to make his $350 rent for the house, and has started a new job that won't allow him to take vacations yet
  • Oiracul is still trying to cope with the nocturnal lifestyle
• The others go away; Remolay is left in charge of the house while Oiracul is recouperating
• Silly hijinks
• Character development on both ends for Remolay and Oiracul
• The main cast members generally loathe their getaway, partly because they miss the others, partly because their intended destination sucks.

That's about it for a general plotline, the details that aren't explicit can be coordinated to suit our desires and fit our needs - personally I wanted Oiracul to actually become a werewolf and have Remolay deal with that for the most part, but that might not be overly exciting - I also wanted to see what you guys could come up with for this. They call me Big T BLOOD 01:11, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Can we incorporate Bluehaven into this somehow? I kind of want Noxigar to go there for worldbuilding purposes. It might also come in handy for later episodes. Noxigar 01:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

welp, i've already partly ruined the direction of the episode. oops. 8| Lex 01:17, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

YOU HAD ONE JOB LEX They call me Big T BLOOD 01:19, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Wait, I thought I was the one who put a wild wrench in the direction? I mean, Noxigar didn't really go anywhere except to get snacks 'cause I thought the plot was about grocery shopping. Noxigar 01:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

not sure what we should do with what was already written then. B| Lex 01:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Actually the brief vacation arc works as-is, except Remolay's job arc isn't in there. We could make the next episode be about a job he gets which can play out into something similar later on. Noxigar 01:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

No it doesn't, because it's not intended to be an arc, it's meant to be a standalone one-part storyline, and meant to be connected to Remolay's character development. He's not going to keep the job longer than an episode anyways, he never does and it's one of the traits of his character that is meant to ring true. What comes of this will probably be a revelation in way of Remolay's work ethic and his track records for keeping jobs brought about by something along the lines of him quitting his job. They call me Big T BLOOD 01:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

(Too many colons) I'm going to just part with the knowledge of "no need for an arc, it was meant to be one-part proper" which I guess is fine. Noxigar 01:38, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I mean, it's not like this is the be-all end-all of character development, but my original idea entering episode 8 was to have 2 fillers - this one progresses Remolay and Oiracul a bit and the next one we can use to frame some other things that we either want, that fill plot holes, or give us the initial work for season 2 to come from They call me Big T BLOOD 01:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Alright. We can still progress through with character development in mind, albeit I see what you mean as far as our actual direction being way off from the intended direction. Noxigar 02:29, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Okay, just like the van, I think I've been able to redirect the plot back into the proper route, without having to remove or rewrite any parts. Lex 02:39, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Vanilla Ice's part in this story is my favorite -pmelondemon43y

you're fat and also a butt They call me Big T BLOOD 01:35, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh my.

That's... quite the way to introduce Byzantium. Lex 07:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I figured since the episode is supposed to have Oiracul be a prominent feature of it that I'd get an introduction to Byzantium out of the way. I have it planned so she loots the fallen blimp and interrogate any survivors of the blimp crash, should there be any. Noxigar 07:38, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I see. That's totally cool, I actually wanted them to get a formal introduction, so this is pretty good. Just one thing to note though, is that in the public eye, they are one of those "friendly mega-corps". Think... Apple. The same sort of public image as Apple, somewhat. So basically, you know they're totally dubious as hell, but at the same time, squeaky clean. But something like this would be a good introduction, yes. Assuming the whole thing done to the Wikihood Manor wasn't an outright attack, of course. Lex 07:46, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

No; the way I had it set up (and this is what makes me a good wild wrench as opposed to a bad one) is that the Wikihood Manor damage (that's mostly repaired at this point) was not intentional. Either Byzantium had offscreen beef with Debonair D'Arque, or their intended target was also in the same neighborhood but whoever attacked the Wikihood house was an incompetent addlepait who screwed up the mission. Noxigar 07:49, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that's understandable. Well, (preplotting spoilers!!1!!) Byzantium is actually associated with Rosenberg, who you can probably guess, is the "mysterious benefactor" of his technological pursuits. So naturally, they wouldn't be too fond of Mr. D'Arque. As for outright hatred? Probably not, as they wouldn't want to meddle themselves in the personal business of one of their most useful pawn clients. But we'll explore that element when we're done with all this. (stephanie inheriting his company? hahaha, she may be in the will, but due to these guys she ain't gettin' squat.) Lex 08:00, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Doing an ever so slight rewrite

Gonna clean up the scenes between us getting the van and going to new york, don't expect big sweeping changes - I'd like to talk about an alternative introduction to Byzantium however, because this seems like it might not be the best way to bring them in They call me Big T BLOOD 01:53, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Also Lex next time you're on skype remind me to talk to you about what I had in mind for Jacques and Joe and we can talk about it(read: get into a huge dick-waving contest about who's more important) They call me Big T BLOOD 01:54, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I'll wait until the dick-waving contest is settled before doing anything else involving Byzantium. To be honest I wanted to establish an antagonist for Oiracul akin to Chaos' antagonism for Town Hall (and by extension Debonair D'Arque). I could've otherwise referenced Space Pirates or something by having Noxigar voice record himself reading Lex and Chaos' journals on the matter with Oiracul listening to it as she gets the pizza. Also, a rewrite doesn't sound bad. I could use a proofread, honestly, and with how clunky some of the episode is I wouldn't be surprised if a rewrite made it look better. Noxigar 11:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah, alright. I'm actually writing a scene with Remolay at work that will hopefully give him more character development, considering how this story is supposed to be about him. Lex 01:56, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

If you guys wanna keep writing I'm doing it in Notepad first and I can tack your stuff on, it'll probably mesh fine. They call me Big T BLOOD 02:03, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that's good. Lex 02:04, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Also, Go Cluck Yourself is easily the best fake chicken business I've heard of. They call me Big T BLOOD 02:06, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I was wondering, "is this joke too over the top?" and to be honest, I thought it was. But I decided to roll with it anyway. Lex 02:12, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I noticed we aren't full up with course language, but I think it's alright. They call me Big T BLOOD 02:18, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

i hope by tv-14 you mean european standards because in that case i think we've already gone past that Lex 02:26, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

dammit lex They call me Big T BLOOD 02:37, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

okay i'll try and mend it

if only for you Lex 02:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

just in case anybody is wondering

yes i do think it was totally necessary to give every side character an actual name

the news reporter is persian okay

everyone gets names that are multicultural

except for the gangsters

Lex 03:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

also i just realised that "officer o'hara" might just be the most stereotypical name ever i am sorry Lex 03:48, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

also on an unrelated note i wanted to actually write more of the new york shenanigans in detail, but due to the small remolay arc, i basically ran out of room and it's a bit poopy but i guess it was worth it in regards to the remolay character development Lex 04:02, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Hey, it's fine. You wrote something I probably couldn't match. Noxigar 11:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

wait

NOXIGAR: {thinking} I wrote some letters to Dr. Zoidberg and Namine about the evils of Raiku and his incorrigible Keyblade. Maybe I should write to the latter and discuss Debonair D'Arque? He runs an asylum and I could probably use her help. It sucks I don't know their true names, though, for I only witness them in the aforementioned fictional costumes and roles they play.

am I seeing things or is that a line literally admitting that Noxigar acknowledges that these people aren't real characters because if so that is quite hilarious and I'd be conflicted to cut it from the episode They call me Big T BLOOD 16:48, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

He acknowledges they aren't real. It's supposed to pass for funny for a reason I completely forgot. Noxigar 19:46, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

because we wrote 60 or so episodes of some sort of series that was basically copyright material serial theater starring shitty self-inserts They call me Big T BLOOD 19:51, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

only here do you get a story where sephiroth from final fantasy vii, luigi and cartman, and a bunch of fucking internet memes interact with each other while the universe is blown up multiple times over Lex 19:53, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

wikihood is like that cousin that you met a total of one time at a family reunion that you don't see for 10-12 years when he shows up on your doorstep hunrgy and lustful for crack cocaine They call me Big T BLOOD 19:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

...but i am that cousin Lex 20:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea what either of you are talking about unfortunately. Although I probably didn't notice the irony from which the Archive reveals. :V Noxigar 20:30, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

okay somebody else can wrap up this episode because i fail to think of a hilarious way that lex gets torn to shreds in a club Lex 20:58, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

you try to teach clubbers how do dougie and they get insulted at your inferior dougie-ing skills FloppyDongHersh

oh, and great rewrite work, chaos!! Lex 21:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I wrapped up the episode as decently as I could. I'm not good at finishers, to be honest. Noxigar 21:51, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Oh, you did pretty good, in my opinion. Yeah, the exposition stuff sucks, I agree, as I actually wanted to show the New York hijinks, and I would have if the episode hadn't gotten so long. There was a lot I wanted to include, including the introduction of Marvin Rosenberg as the neurotic owner of the NYC Nightclubs. But at the same time, I think we managed to do a good enough job with Remolay at least, dedicating a good chunk of the episode to him, and having him solve a problem with his "big mouth", going back to the gag with him rambling and stuff. Well, I think I did alright at that at least.

I liked the whole "Glabal" mention actually. I guess that means that they also operate a chapter in NYC, which is pretty cool. They're much more tyrannical back home in Bluehaven though, I bet. I wouldn't mind touching up on them in the future actually. But this small reference is good for now. But yeah, I'm actually glad at what we were able to add to this as part of universe building, and I hope we can use the next two filler episodes for similar purposes. Lex 22:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)